October 6, 2018 at 19:09 #2447
Turkish authorities believe that prominent Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, who disappeared four days ago after entering Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Istanbul, has been killed.
“The initial assessment of the Turkish police is that Mr Khashoggi has been killed at the consulate of Saudi Arabia in Istanbul. We believe that the murder was premeditated and the body was subsequently moved out of the consulate,” a Turkish official told Reuters news agency on Saturday.
Khashoggi, who had been living in self-imposed exile in the US for over a year, was one of the best-known critics of the Saudi government’s reform programme under the stewardship of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
In his writings for the Washington Post, the Saudi commentator had slammed Saudi policies towards Qatar and Canada, the war in Yemen, and a crackdown on dissent and the media in the kingdom.
“When the people of truth remain quiet against falsehood, the people of falsehood start believing it is the truth.”
October 30, 2018 at 11:09 #3736
Mohammed bin Salman Is the Next Saddam Hussein
In the 1980s, the United States embraced a brutal Middle Eastern tyrant simply because he opposed Iran. Washington should not repeat the same mistake today.
BY RYAN COSTELLO, SINA TOOSSI
| OCTOBER 29, 2018, 5:09 PM
The United States was wrong to back Saddam simply because he opposed Iran, a mistake that has haunted it for decades. Not only were more than 500,000 U.S. troops required to dislodge Saddam from Kuwait, resulting in 382 U.S. military casualties, but it also placed the U.S. government on a warpath that resulted in the 2003 toppling of Saddam, an event that beyond its humanitarian and financial costs for the Iraqi and American people led to the rise of terrorist groups such as the Islamic State and inextricably altered the regional balance of power in favor of Iran—whose largely Shiite allies have assumed power in Baghdad by way of democratic elections.
Mohammed bin Salman, if allowed to ascend to the throne without facing any consequences from Washington for his outrageous behavior, will likely terrorize the region for decades, just as Saddam did. If Khashoggi’s brazen slaughter, carried out in utter disregard for international norms or the political cost for its allies, is a sign of a new Saudi playbook, the world may be facing an even greater threat than Saddam posed. Not only has the crown prince made clear his willingness to use force against neighboring countries, but his country also still enjoys vast oil wealth—giving him the ability to disrupt the global economy (although not to the extent of the 1973 Arab oil embargo) and threaten the profits of Western defense firms, given that the kingdom is the world’s third-largest military spender after the United States and China.
The Trump administration must act now to make it clear to the Saudi royal family that there will be severe consequences for such transgressions and end the unqualified support provided to Saudi Arabia. At a minimum, this should include an end to U.S. participation in the Yemen war, a halt to arms sales, and Magnitsky Act sanctions against all Saudi officials connected to Khashoggi’s killing.October 30, 2018 at 11:29 #3737
There is also an accusation that MBS may have used chemical weapons against Yemeni civilians.
“When the people of truth remain quiet against falsehood, the people of falsehood start believing it is the truth.”November 2, 2018 at 12:18 #3916
The Saudis dismembered then dissolved Khashoggi’s body in acid inside the consulate.
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“When the people of truth remain quiet against falsehood, the people of falsehood start believing it is the truth.”November 2, 2018 at 12:58 #3930
The Saudis wouldnt do that, would they…………of course they would, they are extremely cruel…………nr 3 in that list….November 20, 2018 at 19:41 #4997
If Trump rolls over on this atrocity he is forever on my shit list, second only to the twaddling twat.
Mark, Trump has officially rolled over on this.
Is he going to be forever on your shit list now, I hope?
Trump signals US won’t punish Saudi crown prince over Khashoggi killing
Trump’s Saudi support highlights brutality of ‘America First’ doctrine
Trump calls Saudi Arabia a ‘great ally,’ discounts crown prince’s responsibility for Khashoggi’s death
Trump ‘stands with’ Saudi Arabia and defends crown prince over KhashoggiNovember 21, 2018 at 08:11 #5015
Here is but one article of Trump rolling over.
Trump stands by Saudi prince despite journalist Khashoggi’s murder
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Donald Trump vowed on Tuesday to remain a “steadfast partner” of Saudi Arabia despite saying that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman may have known about the plan to murder dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi last month.
Defying intense pressure from U.S. lawmakers to impose tougher sanctions on Saudi Arabia, Trump also said he would not cancel military contracts with the kingdom. He said it would be a “foolish” move that would only benefit Russia and China, competitors of the United States in the arms market.
Trump said U.S. intelligence agencies were still studying the evidence around Khashoggi’s killing inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2 and who planned it. Since the murder, Trump has taken varying positions on how to react, including possible sanctions.
But on Tuesday, Trump stressed Saudi Arabia’s weapons purchases and its role in keeping world oil prices low as influencing his decision.
“It’s all about, for me, very simple. It’s America first,” Trump said, adding: “I’m not going to destroy the world economy and I’m not going to destroy the economy for our country by being foolish with Saudi Arabia.”
Speaking at the White House to reporters before departing for Florida, Trump said of the possibility that the Saudi crown prince had a hand in the murder: “Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t” and argued that the CIA had not made a definitive determination.
His comments contradicted the CIA, which believes Khashoggi’s death was ordered directly by the crown prince, Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler widely known by his initials MbS.
Trump was accused by Democratic lawmakers of undermining his own intelligence agencies and failing to confront Saudi Arabia over a human rights atrocity.
“Human rights is more than just a phrase, it has to mean something. And that means standing up and condemning a brazen murder by a foreign government. Everyone who played a role in this killing must be held accountable,” Senator Dianne Feinstein said.
There are several things you can take away from this; 1) Trump values his bottom line more than he values human life. 2) Trump has no problem ignoring his intelligence services and it brings to mind when he bragged that he was smarter than the generals. 3) Trump is a deplorable human being.
MAGA; Mueller ain't going away.November 21, 2018 at 09:20 #5031
As if he couldn’t get any more despicable. . .
Trump thanks Saudis after defying calls to punish prince
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump publicly thanked Saudi Arabia for plunging oil prices just a day after he was harshly criticized for deciding not to further punish the kingdom for the killing of U.S.-based columnist Jamal Khashoggi.
Trump, who made clear in an exclamation-filled statement on Tuesday that he feels that the benefits of good relations with the kingdom outweigh the possibility its crown prince ordered the killing, tweeted on Wednesday that it’s “Great!” that oil prices are falling.
“Thank you to Saudi Arabia, but let’s go lower!” he wrote from his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida, where he’s spending Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving, I guess, means thanking the killers of journalists who we all know are the enemy.
Trump is such a royal fucking asshole.
MAGA; Mueller ain't going away.November 22, 2018 at 12:24 #5115
A Turkish news website says the CIA has a recording of a phone call in which Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman gave instructions to “silence Jamal Khashoggi as soon as possible”.
(In spite of this) Donald Trump says a CIA assessment does not conclude that Prince Mohammad ordered the murder.November 24, 2018 at 09:54 #5201November 27, 2018 at 23:20 #5356
So Bolton did not listen to Khashoggi tape because he doesn’t speak Arabic?
I’ve heard people of all colors and creeds cry out in pain. The language is universal…. and unmistakable.#SoFullOfShit
— 🌸Mia🌸 (@mommamia1217) November 28, 2018
“That motherfucker says a lot of shit.” Marshawn Lynch, talking about Trump on Bill Maher 1/18/19November 29, 2018 at 17:03 #5440
— CNN International (@cnni) November 30, 2018
“That motherfucker says a lot of shit.” Marshawn Lynch, talking about Trump on Bill Maher 1/18/19November 30, 2018 at 13:25 #5464
Conversation caught between Macron and MBS – play the video and turn on the audio:
MbS: “Don't worry”
Macron: “I do worry. I am worried …”
MbS: “He told me. Thank you.”
Macron: “I don't want …
Macron: “You never listen to me”
MbS: “I will listen, of course”
MbS: “It's ok, I can deal with it”
Macron: “I am a man of my word” pic.twitter.com/EZYDfKY4DG
— فيصل عيدروس (@faisaledroos) November 30, 2018December 11, 2018 at 22:22 #6072
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